Utah Jazz Mailbag: Would Title Change Legacies Of Gobert, Conley?
May 21, 2024, 3:47 PM | Updated: May 22, 2024, 12:02 am
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Jazz Mailbag: How Would Title Alter Conley, Gobert Legacies?
Ok @BensHoops got an early mailbag question for you: what happens to the legacies of Conley and Gobert if they win a championship this year? And what happens if Rudy wins FMVP?
— Alex (@AEC_PA) May 20, 2024
Question: What happens to the legacies of Mike Conley and Rudy Gobert if they win a championship this year? And what happens if Rudy wins FMVP?
Answer: This is an interesting question because on one hand I’m inclined to say it changes everything for these two former Jazzmen, and on the other, it might not change anything at all.
First, allow me to explain why it might not mean much for either player.
Despite Nikola Jokic calling Conley the “most underrated” player in the NBA, I don’t know if that’s entirely accurate.
Looking back on his career, there isn’t a large collection of seasons when Conley should have earned an All-Star nod over the other top guards in the Western Conference, nor any season when he was really competing for a spot on an All-NBA team.
He’s consistently been one of the 25-50 best players in the NBA throughout his career, but despite being the highest-paid player in the league at one point, was never in the conversation as one of the truly elite players on the planet.
There has never been a better time to be a small market fan in the NBA than right now, and that’s good news for the @utahjazz. https://t.co/CLdx47BJIo
— Ben Anderson (@BensHoops) May 20, 2024
Furthermore, Conley has always been known as a winner and an excellent teammate, and while he can double-down on that reputation by winning at a higher level in Minnesota while helping rescue what appeared to be a broken locker room last season, that doesn’t tell us anything about the veteran guard that we didn’t already know.
In Gobert’s case, he’s already punched his ticket to the Hall of Fame, and adding another All-Defensive First Team nod, and his fourth Defensive Player of the Year award this season were simply the cherries on top of an already great career.
And, despite what happens this year or next in Minnesota, Gobert will be remembered as the third-best center from this era, behind three-time MVP Jokic, and one-time MVP Joel Embiid.
Gobert’s top NBA comparisons historically are Ben Wallace and Dikembe Mutombo, and appropriately, one of them has a title, and one of them doesn’t, and I don’t think that dramatically changes how we remember either player. The same can be said about Gobert, win or lose.
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— Minnesota Timberwolves (@Timberwolves) May 21, 2024
Now, let’s look at how winning a title might change their reputations.
Regarding legacy, a championship would change the teams both players are identified with when we think about them after their careers are over.
Conley would be remembered as the best point guard in Timberwolves history, and that would eclipse his legacy in both Memphis and Utah, while Gobert could say the same thing as a center for Minnesota while overshadowing his time in Utah.
(Think of Ray Allen in Boston and Miami where he won titles, though his best basketball was actually played in Milwaukee and Seattle.)
A title would also allow Gobert to shed the label as a non-playoff player, though those who watched him closely in Utah already knew that was an inaccurate reputation.
And to answer your final question, a Finals MVP would be the crown jewel of Gobert’s already crowded trophy case, but his Hall of Fame candidacy, nor his overall legacy depends on it.
When negotiating Lauris contract this off season couldn’t the Jazz just front load the hell out of it making him cheaper in the future when they want to be good? Making it easier to add and pay better players to pair with him
— Jeff Martinez (@Jeffrizzle23) May 21, 2024
Question: When negotiating Lauri’s contract this offseason, couldn’t the Jazz just frontload it making him cheaper in the future when they want to be good, making it easier to add and pay better players to pair with him?
A: Talking with people in the know regarding Markkanen’s deal, the Jazz have several different ways to structure the contract that would allow them to maintain financial flexibility either this offseason or next, though they didn’t go into immense detail on what that would look like.
Technically, if Markkanen were to sign a max extension, his deal would be worth 30 percent of the salary cap, with eight percent raises every season after that.
If he were to sign below the max, he could structure it to benefit the Jazz where he gets 30 percent of the cap upfront and takes a decrease in salary each season up to eight percent.
Where the Jazz can get creative is their ability to renegotiate Markkanen’s deal next season, and use that as an incentive for the forward to take less than the max on his extension.
Will Lauri Markkanen sign a contract extension with the @utahjazz this summer?
See what he said about his offseason outlook, the team’s front office, and how he feels about living in Utah. #Takenote https://t.co/BFEhgKJRzE
— KSL Sports (@kslsports) April 17, 2024
This is what the Sacramento Kings did with center Domantas Sabonis, and what the Jazz did with Jordan Clarkson, and could serve as the blueprint for what they do this summer.
Though it’s a little-used tactic in the NBA, teams are allowed to increase a player’s contract in a renegotiation using existing salary cap space, then having their salary essentially reset at a different number in the second year when the true extension kicks in.
Using Clarkson as an example, the Jazz were originally set to pay the guard around $14 million for the 2023-24 season. However, in the renegotiation, they tacked on an extra $9 million to bring his single-year salary to just over $23 million, only to see that number reset to $14 million this summer as part of his actual two-year contract extension.
With around $40 million projected in cap space this summer, the Jazz can tack unused salary on Markkanen’s existing $17 million contract for the 2024-25 season as an incentive for the All-Star to sign an extension which wouldn’t truly begin until next summer.
In that scenario, Markkanen’s max four-year extension would be worth somewhere in the ballpark of $200 million beginning in the 2025-26 season, but with a pay increase this summer, that number could be worth north of $215 million, with a renegotiated raise coming this season.
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Ben Anderson is the Utah Jazz insider for KSL Sports and the co-host of Jake and Ben from 10-12p with Jake Scott on 97.5 The KSL Sports Zone. Find Ben on Twitter at @BensHoops or on Instagram @BensHoops.